Cesium Chloride Discussion

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RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by kcervantes on Sat May 09, 2015 08:37 PM

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Hi Bella -

Its been a while since your last post.  Im wondering how you are doing and did the Dr in San Diego cure your cancer?  My husband has stage IV Colon Cancer and I am looking for alternative treatments.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Kim

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by sjack10337 on Tue Jun 02, 2015 02:25 PM

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On Feb 28, 2015 10:00 PM chalmj wrote:

I read the book "Cancer, the emperor of all maladies" as we discussed. I found it fascinating.

The key point, they never figured out how to treat cancer in the past and, in my opinion, they haven't figured out how to treat cancer in the present either. 

For centuries it was a black bile, then in the mid 20th century the radical surgeries, and the fascinating development of chemotherapy. 

Thanks for recommending the book. It verifies to me that we should consider a doctors recommended course of action as just one opinion. 

If the recommended course of action will have a significant impact on your health (surgery, chemotherapy, radiation) you need to do your own research! The final decision is yours.

John 

Hi John, I am curious as to how you are doing today.

I was diagnosed with SSC in may of 2014. Overnight I switched my diet to high pH foods only and have been treating my condition with (on and off) high dose selenium. The diet is based off of the NORI Protocol. It's a Methianine restrictive diet.

I will post more but my main concern was how you were getting along...

Sjack

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by chalmj on Tue Jun 02, 2015 04:05 PM

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Sounds interesting. I take selenium too as part of my daily supplements regiment but have not heard of the NORl protocol. I'll have to check it out.

What type of SCC do you have? Where is it located? Can you get at it topically?

Currently my feeling is most SCC's represent mainly a local spreading problem. When it is external skin SCC they say it is like BCC - just a local spreading problem. Im my case, oral cancer, the reseach says the lungs are the most likely place for it to spread. Yet I have never found a single case.

So based on that belief I'm currently heavy on topical application stuff. Here is a website that has just about every topical thing you could ever think of.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topical_medication

I'm doing lots of internal stuff too but it is the topical application where I have seen the tumor respond. It broke up into smaller peices, some of which are getting lumpier, bigger, some look like they are getting smaller. 

Unfortunately the overal size of the tumor is larger.

Still, I'm feeling great. The things I do to not feed the cancer, diet, supplements, etc have made the rest of me quite healthy. So I am feeling good and remain optomistic I will eventually beat this.

John

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by sjack10337 on Tue Jun 02, 2015 04:18 PM

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On Jun 02, 2015 4:05 PM chalmj wrote:

Sounds interesting. I take selenium too as part of my daily supplements regiment but have not heard of the NORl protocol. I'll have to check it out.

What type of SCC do you have? Where is it located? Can you get at it topically?

Currently my feeling is most SCC's represent mainly a local spreading problem. When it is external skin SCC they say it is like BCC - just a local spreading problem. Im my case, oral cancer, the reseach says the lungs are the most likely place for it to spread. Yet I have never found a single case.

So based on that belief I'm currently heavy on topical application stuff. Here is a website that has just about every topical thing you could ever think of.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topical_medication "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topical_medication " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topical_medication

I'm doing lots of internal stuff too but it is the topical application where I have seen the tumor respond. It broke up into smaller peices, some of which are getting lumpier, bigger, some look like they are getting smaller. 

Unfortunately the overal size of the tumor is larger.

Still, I'm feeling great. The things I do to not feed the cancer, diet, supplements, etc have made the rest of me quite healthy. So I am feeling good and remain optomistic I will eventually beat this.

John

Thanks John,

Mine is left lymph node and left tonsil. It has grown a bit since the diagnosis last year, however, in the recent months the tonsil has not grown but I do see a white layer of skin in the back of my throat.

I have done many things, but recently have been doing the following.

Molassa/baking soda, Juicing 5 to 7 pounds of carrots daily, using the recommended cocktail of vit B17 with pancratic enzyme, DMG 15B, ZINC (CITRATE) all of which make the tumor and affected areas swell and hurt. But it's said it's because it's killing the cancer cells.

I just want to know if anything has been working for you recently that you havent posted?

Thanks

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by cvazmom on Thu Jul 02, 2015 06:54 AM

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Is there any contraindication of cesuim, rubidium and cannabis?

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by cvazmom on Thu Jul 02, 2015 07:07 AM

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On Feb 22, 2014 12:00 AM Fortunate953 wrote:

On Mar 31, 2013 6:35 PM chalmj wrote:

I was diagnosed with Stage IV, T2 N2b M0 SCC of the left soft pallet in Aug 2012. I searched far and wide for non-toxic treatments but found none in the conventional treatment world. 

There is hyperthermia (very big in Germany), but I could not get it without low dose radiation in the USA (Hyperthermia w/low dose radiation is actually approved in the USA by the FDA. I could have actually got this treatment covered under my insurance). My understanding is that cancer cells simply cannot stand the heat and that hyperthermia is very effective. 

so I turned to alternative treatment protocols. 

Along with the key issue of eating raw organic fruits and vegetables every day (I try to make a green smoothie every day in a vitamix mixer with mostly greens and then enough fruits to make it taste good) I am currently on 6 alternative protocols:
1. The Budwig Diet (flax oil w/cottage cheese)- supposed to help rebuild cell membranes)
2. Dr Kelleys Enzymes - supposed to dissolve the protein coating around the cancer cells to expose them to the immune system
3. Lyposomal VitC - 4g every 4 hrs - at these high doses the VitC is supposed to get inside the cancer cells - the cancer cells think it's glucose - and supposedly kills them
4. Some 90 pills/ supplements daily. - some are anticancer, antioxidants, liver support, omega 3/6 oils, minerals, enzymes, vitamins, etc
5. Fluids (powders)- just more supplements but in powder form when dosages go into grams rather than mg's - like whey protein isolate (50-100g/day), 25g MSM, Vibrant Green powder, spirulina, barley grass, L-Glutamine
6. Liquid Ionic Cesium Chloride - 3g/day for 4 days, then 6g/day for 3 days each week.

I started the CsCl on Feb 1st, 2013. For the first two weeks nothing. I was following the directions on the bottle which is to take 1 tbs 2x/day or 3g/day for the first two weeks. On Feb 14th I upped the dosage to 6g/day. Within a week a part of the tumor simply collapsed. It looked like Mt St Helen after it blew its top. There was a large crater in the tumor. 

But then everything slowed down. No more noticeable tumor shrinkage. So I went back to 3g/day for 4 days, then 6g/day for 3 days in an effort to repeat the pattern that seemed to work. No more craters but my tumor does seem to be shrinking again. 

Currently the swelling in my left neck (the 2 metastatic lymph nodes)has gone down approx 90% and the tumor has shrunk maybe 40%. I still have a long way to go but I am encouraged at this point with the progress.

Is there anyone else out there using CsCl? If so I would like to hear how it is working for you.
John

   On October 21, 2013, I was diagnosed with late Stage 4 Rare Blast Prostrate Cancer that had spread to all of my bones, to both lungs, and my kidneys, and my lumph nodes.  My Oncologist at Mayo Clinic told me that I had less than two months to live, and that he would like to give me a strong mixture of two kinds of Chemotherapy, though he admitted that the Chemo would not extend my life, as my type of Rare Blast Cancer has a smart protein coating that is very resistent to any kind of Chemo.

   I refused Chemo, and the next day I began taking 3 grams of Cesium Chloride each day, seven days on and three days off on an empty stomach (stomach acid neutralizes a lot of Cesium).  I added 10 apricot Seeds, 5,000 Mg of Vitamin C and a little Molasses each time.  Within 3 days my extreme pain was gone.  It took about two weeks before my appetite for food began coming back - - I had lost 45 pounds, down to 158 pounds.

   After 4 months, I have gained back 20 pounds, and my PSA count has come down - - last reading was 0.59   My Oncologist recently told me that Cesium Chloride is conquering my "Incurable Cancer."

Hi Fortunate953 are you willing to share a bit more info?  My husband also has prostate cancer.  7 -8 gleason score originally.

I have some questions about your therapy. Do you mind sharing?

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by kcervantes on Thu Jul 02, 2015 04:34 PM

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Hello fortunate953 -

Can you tell me where you purchased your cesium chloride?  I see Sigma Aldrich sells the powder.  Is this not the correct form? 

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by BlindGuide on Thu Mar 15, 2018 08:13 PM

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Dear Fortunate:

Researching Cesium protocol for my brother's cancer, I came across your contribution.

I would very much like to communicate if you are still able.

Please reply.

Thank you,

BlindGuide

RE: Cesium Chloride Discussion

by BlindGuide on Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:55 AM

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Hi K,

Most protocols recommend "liquid ionic" (not just for cesium) which left me wondering just exactly what the Magic was...cesium chloride is -after all - an ionic substance anyway...a little basic chemistry research reveals that it merely means it has been 'dissociated' in that Magic solvent: water (pure, of course). (look up ionic dissociation, solvates, solvents, etc)

So it appears the bottom line is that all those alternative health sites selling Liquid Ionic products for multiples of the price of the same volume of powdered minerals are simply dissolving the same powdered products you can buy in distilled water and reselling it to you; the same 100 grams of powder suddenly goes from worth $60 to more than $200. Shameful, IMO!

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